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Angela ([personal profile] angledge) wrote2006-05-19 02:05 pm

No incentive to be a good person.

So I had this really weird dream last night.

It started out in the kitchen of le Chateau, where I was frying up some bacon. [profile] evilfb was making a PB&J, & was lecturing me on the horrors of eating poor helpless animals for food. Gentle readers, [profile] evilfb is by no means a vegetarian. If he were to lecture me on anything regarding bacon, it would probably be on why I should double the amount I was making so he could have a full share of the yummies. But I digress. In my dream he started out as an advocate of vegetarianism.

[profile] funkyplaid walked into the kitchen and, citing the old adage "you are what you eat", pointed out that pigs are more intelligent than peanuts, making bacon a better food choice than a PB&J. After all, if you are what you eat, you should eat intelligent things, thus becoming (by some strange osmotic process) more intelligent yourself. At this point, I suggested that by that logic, we should become cannibals, because (most) people are more intelligent than pigs.

[profile] evilfb, who quickly abandoned vegetarianism & jumped right onto the cannibalism bandwagon, proposed that we would have to be very selective about who we ate. You are what you eat, after all. So we decided that we would start by eating a Berkeley professor or two - bound to be highly intelligent! But then we stopped to consider - is intelligence the only selection factor we should be considering? If we are planning to better ourselves through cannibalism, should we perhaps consider other factors as well? What about only consuming very attractive people? Or very successful & wealthy people? Then I had a flash of insight: we should only eat GOOD people, very altruistic people - that way, we would also become good people!

At this point, the three of us decided that we should aim for the top. Who are the best people, the most altruistic? Nobel Peace Prize winners! That's right, we decided we needed to eat Nobel Peace Prize winners. But then one of us came up with an even better idea - what if we ran a contest in which the competitors would do their best to prove that they were the most altruistic person in the world. The catch? The contestants would KNOW going into the contest that the WINNER would be eaten by a whole bunch of other people, all of whom were seeking to become better people. What could be more altruistic than agreeing to be eaten for the betterment of humanity?

All I can say is, thank goodness the dream ended there. I would not have been happy if we had actually acted upon our plans. Cannibalism is not cool, not even in a dream.

[identity profile] love2loveher.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the laugh.

I see it as a reality show. People would be more likely to be eaten if it is the final prize on a reality show.

[identity profile] evilfb.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Now Im a bit hungry......

[identity profile] chaosvizier.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The logic of your dream is... strangely flawless. In a fucked-up dreamworld kind of way.

And yet, the irony of it is, by eating good people, you become good people, and yet, is eating people in and of itself not good? Have you cancelled goodness out? Or does it create an internal psychological feedback loop that drives you mad with goodness?

And see, conversely, someone would ultimately hit on the idea to consume purely bad people- maybe they'd eat their way through a prison's Death Row inmates, ultimately becoming a supremely evil being. And then that person would be destined to fight someone who would have to eat hundreds of good people to match their unbound evil, and then...

I am so writing this story.

[identity profile] love2loveher.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm cheering you on.

[identity profile] angledge.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't overlook the fairly obvious religious symbolism of eating a good person to become a better person yourself. Eucharist, anyone? Mix THAT into your story for some Apocalyptic good times!

[identity profile] chaosvizier.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like Highlander, only instead of swords, they have silverware.

[identity profile] thepikey.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ramirez was weak. And after I killed him I ate his woman's liver with fava beans and a nice chianti."

(Fixing the quote)

ROTFLMFAO

[identity profile] jacesan.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*makes a mental note to skip any dinner parties at le Chateau*

I had a wonderful Sociology 101 instructor who started a lecture about mores with a hypothetical question about cannibalism. I was the only person who raised my hand when he asked if anyone would be willing to go along with the idea of consuming human flesh and meat. More for the sake of playing into the argument, and starting conversation than any desire to eat another human being. It's probably one of the biggest taboos of civilization.

I think I just have an effed up sense of humor. What do you say when surrounded by a group of cannibals?

EAT ME!!!

[identity profile] thechinesecurse.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

[identity profile] thechinesecurse.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
Humanitarians eat precisely?

Well, good table manners make good dinner partners, I guess.

[identity profile] funkyplaid.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, quite precisely. You know – with all the grisly bits and chewy tendons. Not that I'd know...I'm just guessing.

[identity profile] richcsigs.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If corn oil comes from corns and peanut oil comes from peanuts, where does baby oil come from?

[identity profile] thechinesecurse.livejournal.com 2006-05-21 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
The closest I can get is the Guaymas Basin. Googling "where is baby oil made" does not appear to be that productive.

[identity profile] thepikey.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
May I make the following movie recommendations?

Silence o' the Lambs
Hannibal
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover
Delicatessen
Wendigo
Alive

[identity profile] angledge.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
May I make the following suggestion?

Read the LAST sentence of the post & revise your movie recommendations accordingly kplzthx.

[identity profile] thepikey.livejournal.com 2006-05-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that was me being silly. But seriously, Delicatessen is just flat-out funny. Many scenes of side-splitting hillarity. Side-splitting, I tell you. And French to boot! (Same director as The City of Lost Children, some of the same actors too. Or maybe you could just opt for The City of Lost Children, which has no cannibalism at all as far as I can recall. Tell ya what - opt for City, and if you like that you owe it to yourself to see Delicatessen, k?)

[identity profile] krick.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmmm.... Yummy!!!.....

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_104.html

[identity profile] marasca.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Bwahahahahaha!! Awesome.

And here I only dreamt about eating bagels last night. Clearly I'm destined to be someone with only the smarts of wheat. Maybe THAT's why vegetarianism hasn't caught on more broadly. We're too dumb to think of how to market it better...

[identity profile] hermiston.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
But if you eat all the good people to fight the bad people is the sacrifice of delicious good people not counter productive?

[identity profile] chaosvizier.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Therein lies the moral quandary!
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Fairy fruit bats - taste great but less filling

[identity profile] angledge.livejournal.com 2006-05-21 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
If we ate you, we'd still be hungry. You'd have to be, like, an appetizer course or something.